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abitmoredetail:

those-celestial-bodies:

freakingquicksilver:

Sooo…which do you prefer???

While I can appreciate when comics address stuff that happened in the past, this post shows the good and bad side. When you tear one character down to bring another up, it’s insulting to both characters. Not least because it demonstrates that the writer doesn’t have enough faith in the characters to let them stand up on their own merits.

It’s like when you meet someone that’s constantly critical of everyone else; the problem is usually their own insecurity, and by tearing others down, they might seem better themselves. 

Is it necessarily tearing either character down?

Wanda and Pietro had a major fight triggered by issues that I am not sure they have ever addressed in the comic books. What has Pietro ever done for Wanda specifically to make up for his manipulation of her into creating the House of M? Has he even apologized for this?

Does Pietro behave badly? Yes. Does he behave badly in a way that is unprecedented? I don’t think so. Pietro does not respond well to people who hold him to account, particularly over the House of M. It is only very recently that he even admitted to the world that it was him, not a Skrull double, who was responsible for the messiness culminating in his post-House of M X-Factor appearance. Then, his behaviour was not presented as something admirable or defensible, at most as something understandable. Why should this have changed?

I do not think that Robinson is intending this to be the final word on the Maximoffs and their relationship. She still loves her brother, and we are given no reason to think he does not return the love. I do think that Robinson is intending this to be Wanda’s perception of the outstanding issues in their relationship, and that we the readers are supposed to think that she has some points. Pietro has done some bad things to her, and has persisted in some negative behaviours up to the present day. Why not deal with them in her book?

Do I like this fight? No. Theirs is one of the most prominent and long-standing family relationships in Marvel and I like these characters. I want them to be able to settle their issues. I would bet that is what future issues, of Scarlet Witch and perhaps of other books, too, will be about.

You addressed another post of mine, and I’ll reply to both of them here. 🙂

I’m not at all against the idea of having Wanda and Pietro discuss–or fight, for that matter–the problems of their past. It’s an unmitigated truth that Pietro causes a lot more problems for Wanda than vice versa. I think this issue did bring up some things that were worthy of being addressed, like what Wanda feels about Pietro’s role in House of M.

However, my issue with this fight is: yes, I feel like it tears Pietro down unfairly, and makes Wanda look bad by association.

Let me put it this way: what if they chose to address the fact Wanda nearly killed Chamber when she depowered mutants, by her retorting that mutants are just freaks that should be wiped out anyway. It’s not unprecedented for her to be hateful of mutants, considering M-Day and some things in Uncanny Avengers.

You, like me, would probably feel it was extremely unfair to her character, and flagrantly ignores the characterization that Wanda normally has. Yes, it might be a catalyst for Chamber to address demons in his past, but it throws another character under the bus to do so.

It is the same with Scarlet Witch #9. Yes, some of it is a worthy thing to be brought up. It’s not unprecedented for Pietro to be controlling or mean. But it’s been a long time since that’s been the case, and often when it did happen, it was for the same reasons as here–lionizing Pietro for Wanda’s character (just as Wanda’s history and personality was disregarded so she could whisper “No more mutants”).

Pietro doesn’t want his sister to be a meek wallflower. He doesn’t think of Vision as a microwave oven. He doesn’t attempt to command everything she does. He certainly doesn’t try to choke her out because he’s mad. This issue, like much of the preceding ones, is just another example of Robinson’s clumsy character building in Scarlet Witch.

freakingquicksilver:

Sooo…which do you prefer???

While I can appreciate when comics address stuff that happened in the past, this post shows the good and bad side. When you tear one character down to bring another up, it’s insulting to both characters. Not least because it demonstrates that the writer doesn’t have enough faith in the characters to let them stand up on their own merits.

It’s like when you meet someone that’s constantly critical of everyone else; the problem is usually their own insecurity, and by tearing others down, they might seem better themselves. 

rubberbandgirlme:

Wanda Maximoff story by me and impeccable rngrn for FCE.

Nnothing would have happened if not for my wonderful Rin who agreed to collaborate with me; turned out we’re both lazy asses, yet still we managed to create this story about a Woman Who Deserved Better.

Rin is everything. Rin is an immensely talented artist. Rin is a lovely piece of ass who deserves all your praises. Rin is one and only; thank you so much for putting up with me and for bringing my ideas into life and creating this helluva beauty. ❤

Does Robinson ever have Vision make an appearance? Or does he even touch on that history?

Vision hasn’t made an appearance in Scarlet Witch vol. 2, no. He has been briefly referenced in the last few issues: 

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Scarlet Witch v. 2 #8

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Scarlet Witch v. 2 #9

What Wanda is referencing in #8 is likely West Coast Avengers v. 2 #45, when Vision loses his emotions. It is ignoring that he regained them, they reconciled, and got back together shortly before Disassembled in Kurt Busiek’s, then Geoff Johns’ run. It does, however, raise the fairly decent point that’s been raised only once before: why did none of the Avengers try to help Vision? We got an explanation from Tony for most of them, but it’s never been addressed with Wanda. This issue posits that Wanda has been too paralyzed by her history to confront it, and thus ignored Vision’s remains and refused to face what she did–kill her husband.

As for #9, this is taken directly from Englehart’s characterization of Pietro as a controlling brother who saw Vision as little more than a toaster. He didn’t feel that way before, and hasn’t felt that way in a long time. But as I said in the previous post, Robinson is making Pietro the villain of Wanda’s past, so it’s not surprising he drew from the era in which they were most at odds.

Yikes, talk about Quicksilver character assassination. Making Pietro the villain of her stories is insulting to both characters. This might be one of the most vicious characterizations of the man yet. His own sister calling him a sociopath (apparently Wanda’s a mental health professional capable of diagnosis)? After he tried to choke her out?

I really really wanted to like this run. But Robinson just doesn’t seem to get what could makes Wanda a strong character and how to strengthen her further. Wanda hasn’t been a “meek little flower” since they were in the Brotherhood of Mutants. But Robinson feels the need to declare that Wanda is so much better now, to tell us that he’s writing the character as strong and powerful (and to back it up by having her attack her brother…destroying her own furniture in the process?).

He’s always paying lip service to how great and skilled Wanda is–or rather, how great he writes her. When Wanda solves a problem, it’s because she knows all the answers and just the right thing to do. She arrives, fixes everything, moves on.

And then the few times Robinson deals with developing her as a person, it’s always on the troublesome side like her calling her brother a sociopath or saying she’s uncomfortable around her children. Rather than enforcing the character she does have, he’s inventing a new, more awful one.

kousagi:

Jᴀᴇɢᴇʀ Pɪʟᴏᴛs ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ Sᴄᴀʀʟᴇᴛ Wɪᴛᴄʜ
Rɪɢʜᴛ Hᴇᴍɪsᴘʜᴇʀᴇ Pɪʟᴏᴛ: Wᴀɴᴅᴀ Mᴀxɪᴍᴏғғ
Lᴇғᴛ Hᴇᴍɪsᴘʜᴇʀᴇ Pɪʟᴏᴛ : “ᴠɪsɪᴏɴ”


[ A Pacific Rim AU where Wanda is pretty much Raleigh Becket. ]

Hailing from eastern Europe, the reckless red Jaeger known as the Scarlet Witch came to S.H.I.E.L.D.’s last remaining facility in New York carrying twin pilots Wanda and Pietro Maximoff. For almost three years the twins wreaked havoc on the kaiju threat, aiding where they could around the world, until tragedy claimed Pietro’s life.

Vision, an android lab assistant of scientist Tony Stark, was suggested to Colonel Fury as a stand-in for the Scarlet Witch’s lost pilot. Stark reasoned, the android would have 100% drift compatibility to whoever he piloted with, given that his personality is truly neutral and he is compliant to any co-pilot’s orders. Vision was happy to aid Wanda—it was not his first time stepping into a Jaeger, having drifted numerous times with Stark in the Iron Man up until injury prompted Stark’s retirement to S.H.I.E.L.D.’s science wing.

Initially, Wanda hesitated to take Vision into the Jaeger—Pietro was the only person she had ever drifted with, at nearly 100% compatibility. Physical training outside of the Jaeger brought Wanda to see Vision less as “the android” and more as a sympathetic individual who does more than quietly take orders and the abuse of some of the other, cockier pilots around the base (Simon Williams, for one.) 

Still, Wanda is unsettled by the prospect of letting anyone into her mind through the drift—letting anyone into what she felt was only Pietro’s place.

Training with the neutral, synthetic man proved Stark’s theory that Vision could easily drift with anyone—and while it was pleasant enough to be back in the Scarlet Witch, Wanda found herself somehow bothered by Stark’s reminder to her that Vision was “an android” and compatible with anyone due to his mental neutrality. All that mattered, though, was that they could fight the kaiju together, Stark reminded her.

In their first drift, Wanda got caught up “chasing the rabbit” and nearly lost herself in memories of Pietro’s death and their traumatic Sokovian childhood—Vision’s clear mind pulled her from the downward spiral before she lost complete control of the Scarlet Witch. However, the near-disaster was enough to convince Wanda that without Pietro, there was no Scarlet Witch. She could not risk another mistake, even with the promise of Vision being there to ground her. Thus, she ran.

When the kaiju strike again (in accordance with Dr. Banner’s predictions that they would come in greater numbers with greater frequency,) Wanda is paralyzed by her own refusal to act.

Impatient and unwilling to let humanity’s last bastion go down without a fight, Stark takes Vision with him to fire up the Iron Man once more—only to find that Vision is no longer drift compatible with him. Vision posits that perhaps he’s bonded with Wanda in a way he had not expected, perhaps in a manner that directly affected the clarity of his mind.

“I didn’t think that was possible.” Tony says, to which Vision answers, “Neither did I.”

Stark knows the only option left is to bring Wanda back to the Scarlet Witch.

Wanda had left the S.H.I.E.L.D. facility, having decided she would never pilot again—at least, until the pilot pair of the Widow’s Eye, Natasha Romanoff and Clint Barton seek Wanda out and convince her in so many words, “Wanda, get in the robot. With the other robot.” (Those were Clint’s words.)

The Scarlet Witch rises again, with pilots Wanda and Vision, to fight the kaiju threat. Carrying a nuclear weapon into the kaiju’s gateway, they carry out the final orders to seal the rift between Earth and the kaiju world for good. 

“It’s okay, Wanda. I can do this alone. All I have to do is fall. Anyone can fall.”

[ more notes for this AU under the cut ]

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