I encourage anyone to think critically of the media they consume.
There is no A- or B-list comic book character more than 5 years old that doesn’t have something that many people will find off-putting. There’s no ongoing comic book more than 10 years old that hasn’t gone through rough, perhaps even distasteful, stages.
For some, that might make it difficult to enjoy the medium. I really understand. I’ve gone through years where I drop some of my favorite stories and characters because they’re being handled in a way that makes me unhappy. In order for me to enjoy them again I have to make a conscious decision to accept how they were written but decide it won’t define the character to me. Every comic book fan does.
So for me, I don’t find Wanda and Vision’s relationship (roughly 1970-2002) in the comics abusive. On rare occasions it could be uncomfortable, but it was consistently written positively in my opinion. Post 2002 there are many moments I do not like that arise from both of them. I made a decision to accept this and not let those moments ruin the enjoyment of what I liked.
As for wanting the MCU couple to play out in a way you determine is abusive–if their comic book relationship makes you this angry, and eager for the negative cultural impact of seeing one of the biggest movie events of all time glorify abuse, you should step back. Being invested in hate over a comic book relationship isn’t worth it.
Amazing MCU fan-art by professional comic-book artist Stephen Byrne!
The best possible scenario:
Wanda and Vision have retained most of their personalities and control except specifically when it comes to HYDRA. Vision is unable to fully articulate thoughts that are subversive to HYDRA; Wanda is unable to act on thoughts that are subversive. Otherwise they are aware and the affair they have started is to comfort each other.
This is not ideal, but we can’t change it and at least it’s a scenario where they can be said to each be consenting to the relationship.
The worst possible scenario:
Wanda and Vision are both unable to say no, and Chthon is getting a kick out of torturing them.
No, wait, that’s not the worst–the worst is one of them can’t say no, and the other is taking advantage. That one is the worst.
Please, please, please Marvel–I know I’ve said that you should always fear them getting back together because of the inevitable break-up, but I didn’t realize that you could make me fear the hook-up even more and now I understand I underestimated your awful power so please don’t do this.
The scene of vision from the infinity war trailer was filmed bts from a fan, the person filming said, “ from what we could see.there was a stunt rig that pulled stunt vision along the ground in to the green fence behind him.you can only see one camera here, there was a large camera rig like a car shot the footage from the front.the mocap actors were seen rehearsing who are play some of the black order….but the strange thing with this scene was after this was filmed vision was replaced with a body double but in human form.”
I’ve been talking a lot with my boyfriend about Infinity War, Avengers 4 and the future of MCU. My biggest worry is Vision, of course. He is my favorite character and it is in front line of Thanos. So I’m going to prepare my heart for his death, because of the stone and the fact he is not a main character. But I still have hope. So tell me if I’m crazy or not.
The Vision’s death is too predictable.
Everyone that knows a little about it or paid attention to Marvel films, knows that Thanos wants the stones and Vision has one. People will go to the movies waiting his death, thinking he ir already dead. I’m saying this based in my interaction in facebook groups. It is pratically unanimous, they do believe Vision will die.
Joe Russo practically confessed that it will have some death. But I do not think it will be Vision’s death. Because is too predictable. The public know that he is the most probably to die, so why they are going to do something people are waiting for? To kill who we think will die is to give more of the same.
Infinity War comes to change our perspective of heroes movies, to surprise us, to be unique and different. So yes, I think they will take another route and kill somebody else, because kill Vision is to follow the comfort zone. And I don’t believe this is what Marvel is looking for.
I believe that Clint and Nebula are going to die in this first movie. Because Marvel will not escape of a death. But I don’t know, I have no idea about what to expect from this movie. I just hope my favorite character can live and find his happiness after the war. (and make some twins)
I’ve had the same thought. It’s an idea that’s kind of hard to justify to myself because I know I really want him to live so the bias is there… but I can’t help but feel that’s a valid point.
The Russos have mentioned wanting to walk the line between giving fans the moments they’re expecting and excited for while not being predictable.
I don’t think I know of a single theory more prevalent than “Vision dies”, yet that moment isn’t exactly something that fans want (except the bloodthirsty ones that want to see Thanos pulp everyone).
The Russos included Crossbones for misdirection to fans who thought that would mean Cap dies (since Crossbones killed him in the comics CW event), yet refused to kill anyone off in Civil War because they wanted the stakes to lie elsewhere. They know exactly what fans are thinking and they’ve shown they don’t want to play directly into the fan theories.
And if I can sort of toss my pet theory out there–I suspect if they both live, Wanda and Vision will become too powerful to stay in the MCU proper and I’ve always felt it’s a total cop-out (if an understandable one) to depower characters after major events to use them again. A good middle ground might be (with some considerable tweaks) for Vision and Wanda to ascend to another level and become the MCU versions of Master Order and Lord (Lady?) Chaos.
Those Celestial Bodies 