Something occurred to me watching Infinity War: a key difference in how the Russos see Vision vs how Whedon saw him.

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The Russos see Vision as someone who was going from robot to person, someone who was gaining his humanity slowly as he developed more human emotions, but Whedon saw Vision as someone who was born more than human. Bear with me:

I’ve talked about how Age of Ultron goes way out of its way to establish Vision is a Real Person, android or no. But there’s also an important element Whedon emphasized as being somewhat more than human. There’s the subtle-as-a-marching-band messianic imagery of Vision both in the movie and in the marketing:

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But I think it’s easiest to identify in his last conversation with Ultron–the final words he speaks in the movie and therefore what our final understanding of the characters are meant to rest upon. Ultron is locked into the confused and broken perspective of a doomed, worthless human race because he’s incapable of changing. He “misses” the beauty of them because he is too machine to perceive it.

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Vision, despite being born predisposed towards that same confused hate and violence quickly forms new opinions and comes to an independent conclusion.

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They are positioned as opposites, foils, counterparts–where Ultron is the most regressive take on the ultimate answer to the worthiness of humanity, Vision is therefore positioned as having the most enlightened one.

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There’s nothing less than human about Vision in Age of Ultron. What feels inhuman about him is not the machine part of him, it’s the ethereal.

But then we get to Civil War.

I’ll start off by saying, the Russos are clearly more comfortable with “grounded” characters. They have frequently talked about their desire to ground characters in interviews, and I think that extended in being too uncomfortable with Whedon’s take of an angelic, Lamb of God android. Or they perhaps were simply predisposed to think of a synthetic character as needing to rise up to humanity and saw Vision’s character in AoU through that lens.

But this means when we are introduced to Vision, we go from a character who immediately grasped the social importance of clothes[1] to needing multiple discussions on the concept of privacy.

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One of the most important distinctions is I think subtle, but inarguable if taken together: Vision is actually very empathetic and able to read emotionally complex situations with relative ease.

From being the only character to have compassion for Ultron and express an emotional, nuanced take on the mission to stop him (vs Civil War Vision seeing things in terms of equations and action vs reaction):

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From understanding the unspoken implication of threat from Bruce that Bruce himself wasn’t fully aware he was making (to missing quite a bit of Wanda’s underlying feelings):

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From the display of very genuine trust and empathy to a heretofore antagonist Wanda (to being a bit too obtuse in his attempts to comfort Wanda, if in a very well-meaning way):

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Nothing suggests in Age of Ultron that Vision has trouble with social cues or feelings. Yet that his main arc in Civil War.

I think some of this might be responsible for the disconnect people feel with Vision’s humanity now–even though it wasn’t intentional, I think much of the audience instinctively were clued in to the fact Vision seems to have regressed, and some of the interest piqued in AoU was likely deflated when he was functionally almost a different character.

It might be that since I’m talking about how I feel the Russos started off Vision as somewhere not fully human sounds like a criticism of them or their version of Vision–but it’s not. I think I might have personally preferred the take of Vision coming down to humanity’s level via his love of a very much human woman[2] rather than the much more done take of “What is this thing you call love?”, but that’s simply a matter of personal preference from me. One is not inherently superior to the other.

It’s a different approach to the character, but I think the end goal was the same for the Russos and for Whedon: Vision as Wanda’s equal.

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[1]Not to mention, clothing oneself is a highly important symbolic gesture of civilizing and humanizing oneself, from The Bible, to the Epic of Gilgamesh, to Lord of the Flies.

[2]Despite the Russos many interviews stating Wanda’s arc is meant to show how she is moving away from humanity, they either really missed the mark, are saving that for A4, or simply changed their minds, because Wanda is never more human than in Infinity War.

dianaggv:

Infinity war audio commentary confirms that Tony knew Vision has been meeting Wanda all this time

Stephen McFeely explained in the commentary track why Tony said that Steve might be able to help locating Vision, after he confirmed that he couldn’t contact him because Vision had turned off his transponder for the last two weeks:

“Just to underline between lines here when he says Steve might be able to help, it’s because Tony knows that Wanda is on the run with Steve. And he knows that Vision has been stepping out and maybe having a relationship with Wanda. And he has been cool with that and probably not called Vision to task for it. So, yeah, Tony knows a lot here even if we don’t make that clear to the audience.”

So yeah, Tony knew his son was running aroung playing Romeo and he was cool with it.

So I was thinking a little bit and realised that people being upset about Wanda destroyed the Mind Stone (thus killing Vision) so late is totally irrelevant. At that point when Dr. Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos, he could just go back in time and get the Mind Stone (if destroyed sooner berore he arrived on Earth) just as we saw. And also people don’t mind Dr. Strange willingly handing over the Stone, but bitching about Wanda (and a whole lot of other people) not wanting to kill someone.

Absolutely. This movie has people all over the place pointing fingers, and this is no different. The Time Stone is even able to manipulate time in an isolated instance–that is, it’s not like Thanos even had to reverse an entire timeline. He could localize the effect to just Vision.

I will say, though, Strange definitely has a greater plan in mind, so it’s not quite the same kind of decision.

starkravinghazelnuts:

Aside from people giving Peter Quill shit for his actions in Infinity War (which annoys me since his actions were completely understandable and human), I don’t get so much blame being leveled against Wanda for what happened. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking shit about her (things to the effect of ”She was willing to let half the universe die for an overblown toaster!”), but… was it just Wanda? No. 

Almost everyone was on board with stalling: Steve and Bruce specifically and vocally disagreed with killing Vision. No one protested the plan to take Vision to Wakanda to fix him. T’Challa opened up the doors to Wakanda, so clearly he agreed on some level. Shuri was on board with the actual operation. Not one person aside from Vision was on Team “Hey, Let’s Destroy the Mind Stone Now”. 

So why criticize only Wanda for this? If people want to throw Wanda under the bus for waiting too long to destroy the Mind Stone, they should also throw every other person who agreed with Wanda under the bus too. At least Wanda had a good reason for not wanting Vision dead. She was in love with him. 

This fandom has a weird habit of picking and choosing certain characters to target with their ire while ignoring the complicity of their own personal faves or outright ignoring the less-than-stellar actions of them. Like damn.