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IW Theory: The Significance of “I Just Feel You”

Right after Civil War,
Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely

had an interview talking about Infinity War.

If there is one obvious hint in Civil War at what’s in store with Infinity War,
it’s when Vision says he wishes he could control the infinity stone in
his head. When we spoke with Markus and McFeely, they confirmed Vision’s
line is a tease:

Markus:
That’s the most blatant set up I can think of.

At best, you could say that Vision’s lack of control is significant, yet it’s never pointed out in the movie as such. The Stone is treated more or less the way it has since Age of Ultron–as a distinct entity from Vision.

So if that line is “blatant set up”, where’s the pay off?

Early in the movie, Wanda and Vision share a sweet exchange–Vision is feeling pain from the Stone, feels like it’s almost trying to tell him something. He asks Wanda to see what she feels, and she says–”I just feel you”.

Later Vision will comfort her in his last moments, telling her as she prepares to destroy him, “You could never hurt me. I just feel you.”

Taken at face value, the first is about how Wanda simply doesn’t have the power or experience to sense anything from the Stone. The second is a tragic callback to a happier time.

But taken literally Wanda is telling us (without realizing it herself), is there is just Vision in the Mind Stone. He is the Mind Stone. She could feel anything else because there is nothing else but him.

So Vision’s final words to her take on a new meaning: the Mind Stone only feels her, the woman he loves–even as she destroys him. Vision/the Stone can’t be hurt by Wanda because he knows her, and he knows he loves her.

What does this mean for Avengers 4?

  1. The Mind Stone is the Stone that we’re told seems to think on its own, long before anyone merges it with any sort of consciousness or protocol.
  2. Infinity War shows us the Soul Stone, capable of independent judgement and wisdom.
  3. One of the final scenes is Thanos interacting with Gamora–or something that looks like Gamora–entirely without his own will.
  4. The Gauntlet was damaged.

Taken all together, this means Thanos doesn’t have the Stones subjugated to his will anymore, if he ever fully did. And if Vision is still there–if a part of Vision is still there, then he knows her.

And he could never hurt her.

Why is there so much Wanda hate? Honestly curious. I don’t get it. (Also, Vision hate)

If you mean for IW, I haven’t seen hate yet. Perhaps some people are bitter about Wanda not killing Vision earlier, but whether she would or not made no difference because all the heroes were in agreement that nobody should have to kill Vision, and they’d rather fight. Not to mention, once Thanos got the Time Stone, it didn’t matter when she did it.

If you mean from before, there are two camps:

  1. People who are angry at how the character was adapted. She is Romani in the comics, and Marvel cast a non-Romani woman, and had her working with HYDRA. This is a subject I’m not going to get into it this moment.
  2. People who are angry that Wanda messed with Tony and Tony gets full blame for Ultron but Wanda doesn’t.

For the record, I agree Wanda is also responsible for Ultron, it’s just not as important to her character arc anymore, because it’s her origin story. She was narratively punished by the death of her brother and the destruction of the home she was trying to save. It’s the final piece in her becoming an Avenger. That’s why no one keeps going back to it. For Tony, though, it’s a part of an ongoing character development.

As for Vision, that’s mostly people who don’t like his relationship with Wanda for the most part. That is about two things usually:

  1. The idea Vision was manipulating Wanda in CW, which I addressed here
  2. The age difference between the actors, which I addressed here

I really love your theory that Vision’s consciousness has survived within the Mind Stone and will fight Thanos from there. Just like Gamora is somehow inside the Soul Stone. But I also wonder if Shuri managed to separate his consciousness from the Mind Stone before she was interrupted and she, Bruce and Tony will reanimate him in A4. She did take the file with her when she escaped the lab.

Oh, I didn’t catch that! I’ll be seeing the movie again today, so I’ll be able to soak in details a bit better. That’s fascinating. So, with only part of Vision’s brain–the parts that canonically make up the less-sentient, less advanced side of him–and with a colorless Vision corpse lying around, and a super genius who’s the world’s expert on vibranium right nearby as well as one of his original creators…

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