We don’t trade lives

elcorhamletlive:

feliciates:

sebstanmoviesandtv:

feliciates:

Jesus.

Just like people willfully misinterpreted Cap’s
edict that “Every time someone tries to WIN a war before it starts,
innocent people die” as being the same as ‘people trying to STOP a war
before it starts’ now everyone is doing the same thing with “We don’t trade lives.”

That doesn’t mean
people never die fighting evil.  It doesn’t mean we don’t sacrifice
ourselves for the greater good.  It means we don’t let one of our
teammates give up their life until we’ve exhausted all other options.

Bruce even spelled it out when Vision tried to make a parallel with Steve’s sacrifice. He points out that Steve didn’t have a CHOICE at that point in time.

Cap wanted to make sure before they killed the person Wanda loved that they exhausted all other options.  What a monster and hypocrite that makes him!

I’m sure if Steve had let Vision die there in Scotland, now everyone would be pointing out that he didn’t even try, that Shuri or Bruce could have helped.

SIGH.

I sit here dumbfounded. I honestly do not understand people who vilify Steve. He’s not a perfect man but he’s a good one and he tries so hard to do what’s right. Maybe those who are so damn critical of him should step back and think about all he’s been through and how little time he’s had to process everything. I love him so much and I just…I cannot stand the leaps and bounds people make to try and put marks against his character. ffs

I’m straight up shocked by how people apparently really thought no one would bat an eye at the idea of sacrificing someone. Like… Were you all really sitting in the theaters thinking a group of heroes in a Disney movie would just go “oh yeah kill yourself vision, and please do it fast so it doesn’t inconvenience us further, thanks”? Like, what the actual fuck. Steve isn’t even the only one who objects to killing Vision – if you’re gonna blame him for that you need to blame Bruce, Natasha, and even T’Challa and Shuri. Or you can just accept that good people don’t jump at the opportunity of letting an innocent person die.

Also, Vision is making a false comparison, not just because of the
third option Steve didn’t have, but because Vision isn’t sacrificing
HIMSELF, he’s asking Wanda to sacrifice him. It’s more like if Steve
found out there’s a way to deactivate all those bombs, but he had to
blow up the building Peggy was in.

The point of the dilemma about Vision’s life was not to ultimately answer “Yes, turns out, one life IS worth trillions, who knew?”

The point is to show us how that decision changes when there’s a third option.

They don’t want to murder an innocent person because he happens to exist in the wrong way. They don’t want to make another innocent person murder him. And they don’t have to! They can extract the Mind Stone, have Wanda destroy it, and be True Heroes All Along. They can be noble, heroic, and be satisfied they did the morally correct thing.

You know, like Thanos’ people tried to do.

And that’s the point. The parallel between two situations in taking a third way out that means not having to commit a terrible act until it’s too late.

But there’s a catch here–Thanos has the power of inevitability on his side. He has the Time Stone. It wouldn’t have mattered if Wanda had or hadn’t. Whether Wanda did it earlier or later.

And that’s the thing, Thanos’ plan is short sighted. People will continue to populate, resources will continue to dwindle. That’s inevitable too.

So now or later, here or there, “destiny arrives”. Thanos is only delaying it—and he plays a cold numbers game to do so.

What separates him from the heroes isn’t that heroes aren’t willing to. Quill and Wanda both try. It’s that they’re willing to try something else first. Because destiny is always going to arrive one way or another—but they’re going to fight for something better.