Can you imagine if Shuri had successfully extracted the Mind Stone? All of the heartache of Wanda deciding whether she has to kill the man she loves, the Avengers and Wakandans fighting to the death to protect Vision, Vision having to convince Wanda to kill him… All avoided.
Only for Thanos to reverse time, claim the Mind Stone, and have Vision watch Wanda disintegrate before his eyes with a snap.
Aww anon… by reversing time and killing him again. 😦
@anon
So what are your theories for avengers 4 and how Wanda will play out in it?
Anons, these questions are related so I’m tying them together.
Yes, I’ve had that exact thought! I think we have two points that support that:
Okay,
so I’m well aware I’m viewing this through the lens of what I want to
see. My theories are coming back to her being important, but that could
easily be projection. And we know so little about it, all of our
theories are basically just us soft writing the script from whole cloth
(or scraps of cloth anyway).
BUT! If we’re going to be theorizing, I say let’s shamelessly tailor that script. What else do we have to do?
So, what could alternate universe Wanda with babies include?
Time was a constant theme in Wanda and Vision’s relationship in Avenger Infinity War.
All they wanted time. Time to stay together. Just a bit longer. Miss one train. Miss the next. Stayed in bed.
In the beginning, Natasha was scolding Wanda about not being reckless and always checking and what did Wanda say? ‘We just wanted time.’
Vision begged Wanda to destroy the stone while it was still in his head and he said ‘We are out of time.’
Thanos got the Mind Stone in the end, and how did he do it? The Time Stonex turning back time to when the Stone was still intact and gouged it out of Vision.
Time was never on Wanda and Vision’s side, and all they wanted was time.
Ngl, I’ve been rubbing my hands over that idea muttering “my precious, my precious” since I saw that casting call, and now especially with IW ending. Okay, points in favor:
Counterpoints:
But those counterpoints are dependent on the idea the casting call was the only actors being cast for the twins. But realistically, they would had their casting director find suitable actors–I’ll point out we had no idea who the actress for young Gamora was until about a month before the movie, and that’s because she told us herself. So we wouldn’t realistically be clued into the Minimoffs until we got a trailer for them.
But–be careful what we wish for. The point in bringing Billy and Tommy in is so we can have Wiccan and Speed, and we can’t have them without the age up. Which means if we get the boys, then we’re going to lose the boys too. Poor Wanda…
Mine was silent both times, like it was a funeral. Spidey’s death was the only one that made me cry on my first watch. When Vision was being killed I was doing mental floor routines trying to figure out how he could get out of this, how he didn’t really have to die, so I wasn’t fully in the moment. And boy, Thanos sure showed me how Vision could get out of that…
@huntressride
Do you think vision is really going to stay dead? My heart is exploding at the thought of Wanda living without him!
I am so biased here! I really am. I can’t get a good sense of where the narrative might go because I’m hung up on what I want to happen. Not to mention IW ends in such a dramatically upending way it’s hard to know what the next step. So do I think he will live? I say he can live.
They have to be incredibly conscious of how bringing back dead characters will cheapen loss for any truly dead character and lower the stakes of the movie. So if they decide to do it, they have to fulfill certain criteria to make it satisfying. There must be preceding justification, it must fulfill a need for the story that could not have been fulfilled otherwise, the audience must be made to feel as strongly (in a positive way) about bringing him back as they felt when he died.
For Vision, we have two routes. The first is Shuri has a backup copy. I’d even point out this bit in the Infinity War prelude comic:
Shuri was able to digitally copy Bucky’s brain and then basically overwrite him with that copy. She did that with a living, organic being. Hell yeah she could do that with Vision.
There’s also the notion that Vision’s consciousness might reside in the Mind Stone, which I argued for here.
Though I would like to point out these two things are not mutually exclusive.
As far as story concerns, there’s plenty of ways it could go that would make Vision returning critical. You have to think about the things that are unique to Vision and perhaps unique to the way he died: he bore the Mind Stone; Wanda is in love with him; his death was reversed (natural order, as Wong would say); Wanda sacrificed what she loved most, etc. So long as it plays off of those things, it’s viable.
The last is the trickiest. I’ve said it before, but there was so much emphasis placed on his death, it does make it feel very permanent. They would have to place quite a bit of emphasis on what it means for him to come back to make up for it.
What I suspect–or perhaps I should say the most I hope for–is that Vision is not directly resurrected, but rather his consciousness comes to the fore in the Mind Stone, and Wanda perhaps has a scene (like Thanos and Gamora) with him before he’s gone for good. I don’t think the movie will fully resurrect him, but I think it will provide Wanda with closure, especially if they hope to use her in the future.
Those Celestial Bodies 