（Ｔ∇Ｔ）That…that’s so nice…
I really want to, but I don’t have a store and AFAIK the upkeep on listings probably wouldn’t pay for the demand for anything I do. If you message me privately I can give you the PSD though, and you can print out whatever. 🙂
Mine was silent both times, like it was a funeral. Spidey’s death was the only one that made me cry on my first watch. When Vision was being killed I was doing mental floor routines trying to figure out how he could get out of this, how he didn’t really have to die, so I wasn’t fully in the moment. And boy, Thanos sure showed me how Vision could get out of that…
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Do you think vision is really going to stay dead? My heart is exploding at the thought of Wanda living without him!
I am so biased here! I really am. I can’t get a good sense of where the narrative might go because I’m hung up on what I want to happen. Not to mention IW ends in such a dramatically upending way it’s hard to know what the next step. So do I think he will live? I say he can live.
They have to be incredibly conscious of how bringing back dead characters will cheapen loss for any truly dead character and lower the stakes of the movie. So if they decide to do it, they have to fulfill certain criteria to make it satisfying. There must be preceding justification, it must fulfill a need for the story that could not have been fulfilled otherwise, the audience must be made to feel as strongly (in a positive way) about bringing him back as they felt when he died.
For Vision, we have two routes. The first is Shuri has a backup copy. I’d even point out this bit in the Infinity War prelude comic:
Shuri was able to digitally copy Bucky’s brain and then basically overwrite him with that copy. She did that with a living, organic being. Hell yeah she could do that with Vision.
There’s also the notion that Vision’s consciousness might reside in the Mind Stone, which I argued for here.
Though I would like to point out these two things are not mutually exclusive.
As far as story concerns, there’s plenty of ways it could go that would make Vision returning critical. You have to think about the things that are unique to Vision and perhaps unique to the way he died: he bore the Mind Stone; Wanda is in love with him; his death was reversed (natural order, as Wong would say); Wanda sacrificed what she loved most, etc. So long as it plays off of those things, it’s viable.
The last is the trickiest. I’ve said it before, but there was so much emphasis placed on his death, it does make it feel very permanent. They would have to place quite a bit of emphasis on what it means for him to come back to make up for it.
What I suspect–or perhaps I should say the most I hope for–is that Vision is not directly resurrected, but rather his consciousness comes to the fore in the Mind Stone, and Wanda perhaps has a scene (like Thanos and Gamora) with him before he’s gone for good. I don’t think the movie will fully resurrect him, but I think it will provide Wanda with closure, especially if they hope to use her in the future.
It’s okay, IW’s ending was just one of the timelines Strange saw. In the real timeline, Wanda said yes to staying with Vision and they decided to travel the world! The Northern Cascades were their first stop.
They can spend awhile there, since Vision only carries provisions for Wanda. Wanda likes the mountains–they remind her of Sokovia. Vision likes that it’s mostly wilderness, so he doesn’t have to worry as much about staying in disguise. Wanda has perfected a low-level telekinetic field that acts as a mosquito repellent. Vision, on the other hand, gets excited when a bug lands on him. He is particularly fond of northern bluets.
I just got back from watching it again! Oh my god, it’s even more emotional the second time. The preparation only breaks your heart more. I noticed some new things!
Yes, I think so. Obviously the dusted characters aren’t going to stay that way. Not to mention, the writers and directors have really hyped her up:
…but we haven’t exactly seen the payoff. But we’ve seen a lot of priming.
If you mean for IW, I haven’t seen hate yet. Perhaps some people are bitter about Wanda not killing Vision earlier, but whether she would or not made no difference because all the heroes were in agreement that nobody should have to kill Vision, and they’d rather fight. Not to mention, once Thanos got the Time Stone, it didn’t matter when she did it.
If you mean from before, there are two camps:
For the record, I agree Wanda is also responsible for Ultron, it’s just not as important to her character arc anymore, because it’s her origin story. She was narratively punished by the death of her brother and the destruction of the home she was trying to save. It’s the final piece in her becoming an Avenger. That’s why no one keeps going back to it. For Tony, though, it’s a part of an ongoing character development.
As for Vision, that’s mostly people who don’t like his relationship with Wanda for the most part. That is about two things usually:
Oh, I didn’t catch that! I’ll be seeing the movie again today, so I’ll be able to soak in details a bit better. That’s fascinating. So, with only part of Vision’s brain–the parts that canonically make up the less-sentient, less advanced side of him–and with a colorless Vision corpse lying around, and a super genius who’s the world’s expert on vibranium right nearby as well as one of his original creators…
I mean, I don’t think it gets much more dark in a Marvel/Disney movie that having our hero kill the man she loves only to watch him get resurrected and have half his head ripped out and then for her to die too.
We saw him die, twice. Both deaths were very drawn out, and in fact the most drawn out in a movie filled to the brim with deaths. Even some of the more standalone ones, like Loki and Gamora’s were not treated the same way. And then to get the imagine of the Stone ripped out, and his lifeless body falling to the ground? That’s really selling the death.
And then there’s the fact there seemed to be somewhat of a divide between characters who got a decent amount of screentime, lines, relationship developments, and characters who did not. And, notably, most of the characters who did not are the characters who got dusted. Implying, to me, they’re going to shine in A4. But Vision, especially compared to Wanda, had some pretty substantial moments.
Honestly, at this point, I’m guessing Vision stays dead, and Wanda gets a substantial role in the next film. But we’ll see.
I talked about that a bit here, too.
I assume it’s also going to about her realizing her powers and what that means for her as a person. That’s what the Russos have said her journey is about. So far her footage frames her in a protective role, she has a plenty good reason to develop and expand her powers.
As far as Pietro–that story wrapped up with Ultron. His death was the final piece of Wanda’s narrative redemption. Besides Marvel Studios not wanting to deal with two Quicksilvers, Wanda’s character and relationships would be difficult to develop if he were still alive. Wanda had only 10 minutes of screentime (including non-speaking) in CW–a sizable chunk of that would have gone with Pietro, and that’s not the story they wanted to tell.
This is true of the comics too. To my recollection, Wanda and Pietro haven’t been on an ongoing together since a little after their Kooky Quartet days. They’ve had story arcs together, but not as ongoing teammates.
And as far as an in-universe reason goes:
Pietro may end up featuring in Wanda’s story in some capacity. But it wouldn’t be surprising to me at all if he won’t, and it would be a screenwriting mistake to bring him up beyond a short, meaningful mention unless they plan on it.
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