Can you imagine how happy the whole fandom would be if they didn’t die in IW, we’ll all be talking about the future development of their relationship, getting married, having kids and stuff. We would be so excited and happy that they are finally together. God I miss them so much, I think about them everyday, then feel sad about it.

Wellll…. I feel like this is almost sacrilegious to say, but I actually wouldn’t have wanted them to leave off on a happy note in IW for Wanda and Vision. To me, it wouldn’t have fit the tone. It would have been hard for me to enjoy the fandom gossip about happy stuff like marriage and kids when basically the rest of MCU fandom is on fire.

Wanda’s ethnically Jewish-Romani (Romany/Roma?) through Magneto and Magda, her mom.

I did mention Magneto:

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…of course Wanda’s not actually related to him anymore (or is she? We still don’t know who her dad that murdered Natalya was), but I prefer to ignore that.

Or do you mean Magda is also Jewish? She could be. It’s never been said outright, although the narrative leans more away from it, since the Sinti of Germany and at Auschwitz were predominately Catholic and
Magneto specifically dropped his Jewish heritage so he could fit among Magda’s people. That’s a longer story that has to do with meta reasons of trying to fix conflicting backstories for Magneto.

That kissing scene is longer than the one in the actual movie, they were laughing after the kiss. I want to see the whole scene so bad. Normally we wouldn’t know more than that part existed but now we know and it’s killing me.

I know, right? I am pretty curious how different the marketing and fandom leading up to IW might have been if not for this leak. Right before we got that video we knew they were on set together, and everyone was just excited they were sharing a scene–I was guessing at this point Vision had just found Wanda, IIRC. Then BAM full on makeout!

I’m hoping it makes it’s way into an extended scene in the home release extras–what really stuck out to me was that Vision responds to Wanda after she says “I just feel you”.

There was also some extra stuff between Corvus and Proxima that was cut, which makes me wonder if they battle scene had more going on.

(This is the video paparazzi caught of Paul Bettany and Elizabeth Olsen filming the scene that’s being talked about)

Is there is possibility that Vision is in the Mindstone? I just keep thinking about the line in Civil War when Vision says that maybe someday he will be able to truely control the stone and he was connected to the stone for such a long time that he could have become a part of it, right?

I do think it’s possible! I’m glad we had the same thought; that’s how we know narrative beats are legit. I talked about it here to some length too!

Oh wow that post about Paul being confirmed for the next movies really gave me false hope before you broke it down. And I agree completely that what he said in that interview doesn’t really say anything about his part in A4.

Awww, I’m sorry anon. I mean, we’re all hoping really hard he’s in it, so we’re leaping on the crumbs we can find. And IW has a lot of clickbait articles that are purposefully misleading hopeful fans about what happens in A4, which makes matters worse.

If it makes you feel better, this interview from Bettany has him outright stating he went back for filming in September–which was in Avengers 4 was being filmed. I actually forgot he was so direct about it. That could be reshoots for IW, or he could even by lying, but it’s pretty solid.

I think for both Lizzie and I, it’s the most exciting plotline for each
of us so far. I really loved making the first [Infinity War], we had a
ball doing it, and I’m going back in September to continue and it’s the
biggest production that I’ve been on…ever. It’s just huuuuuuuge.

When I saw that ending,one of my theories was that Thanos would have created another reality (like Wanda does on the comics) and on it Wanda would have the babies. By beaking the reality, she would lose them. Basically House of M except it would not be Wanda’s doing.

@anon
So what are your theories for avengers 4 and how Wanda will play out in it?

Anons, these questions are related so I’m tying them together.

Yes, I’ve had that exact thought! I think we have two points that support that:

  1. I don’t believe the dusted Avengers are going to just stay gone until the movie’s end.
    1. Parallel universes have been brought up in Doctor Strange, and he’s one of the dusted Avengers.
    2. On the flip side, I’m pretty sure the writers have specifically said ‘no alternate universes’, but I can’t find the interview.
  2. Like I said here, if they want to bring in Tommy and Billy, now is basically their one shot.

Okay,
so I’m well aware I’m viewing this through the lens of what I want to
see. My theories are coming back to her being important, but that could
easily be projection. And we know so little about it, all of our
theories are basically just us soft writing the script from whole cloth
(or scraps of cloth anyway).

BUT! If we’re going to be theorizing, I say let’s shamelessly tailor that script. What else do we have to do?

So, what could alternate universe Wanda with babies include?

  • Amnesia. If they’re looking to replicate Diassambled/HoM, a Wanda who
    doesn’t remember her history is probably the closest we’ll get to a
    Wanda who is unable to differentiate realities.
  • In the comics, the
    Stones don’t work outside of their home universe. Her power was
    connected to the Mind Stone. She may be now be powerless.
  • Or so we
    think. One of the things the original twins were meant to represent was a
    Wanda’s powers grown to unprecedented levels. Perhaps
    her power lies with her children.
  • This could still mean Wanda loses her regular powers–thus prepping her for an apprenticeship to Doctor Strange.
  • If Wanda has to lose her kids, then I suspect the writers will want
    Wanda being the key to connecting the universe so that she has agency in
    this loss. Sacrificing what she loves most (again).
  • Post-credits stinger of a kid who’s referred to as “Billy” in the last second.
  • We just got confirmation A4 is not called Infinity Gauntlet. Could it
    be Disassembled? I’ve heard that tossed around for a long time, but with
    the end of IW it takes on a new meaning, with many of the Avengers
    being literally disassembled.

I have a theory (that I concocted because I just saw infinity war and my soul is decimated and I really really want Vision and Wanda to have their happy ending) and maybe I could get some help on this? So we know there was a casting call for baby twins in avengers 4. Depending on the timeline between IW and 4, does this mean Wanda would have been/will be pregnant in either movie? Maybe just hopeful guessing but I mean maybe?

Ngl, I’ve been rubbing my hands over that idea muttering “my precious, my precious” since I saw that casting call, and now especially with IW ending. Okay, points in favor:

  1. There was a casting call for twins.
  2. There are somewhat credible rumors that a 16-year-old has been cast as Cassie Lang, specifically for Avengers 4. That’s 5-6 years older than the 10-year-old who played her in Ant-Man. Since Mar’Vell will be joining the MCU in Captain Marvel, and Hawkeye is going to have some solo adventures in Avengers 4 (Kate?) we may very well be primed for the Young Avengers.
  3. And if we are primed for them, this is pretty much their only chance to bring in Tommy and Billy with anything close to resembling their comic book heritage. 

Counterpoints:

  1. The casting call was only for two days and went out very shortly before the role was needed and for a pretty small pay rate, and for young actors twins are often cast so that they can film around labor law constraints. This implies this is a very small role, which if Wanda’s got babies that’s going to be majorly important to her arc.
  2. The casting call was for 2-year-olds, not 5-year-olds. If we’re talking about a time skip, the years don’t add up.
  3. They could just bring in Wiccan and Speed with no connection to Wanda and/or Vision.

But those counterpoints are dependent on the idea the casting call was the only actors being cast for the twins. But realistically, they would had their casting director find suitable actors–I’ll point out we had no idea who the actress for young Gamora was until about a month before the movie, and that’s because she told us herself. So we wouldn’t realistically be clued into the Minimoffs until we got a trailer for them.

But–be careful what we wish for. The point in bringing Billy and Tommy in is so we can have Wiccan and Speed, and we can’t have them without the age up. Which means if we get the boys, then we’re going to lose the boys too. Poor Wanda…